Tuesday, January 14, 2014

Introducing Oedipus

In one 8-10 sentence paragraph, respond to the questions below.

We meet Oedipus when he appears at the very beginning of the play, in the Prologue. What do the priest and the other Thebans think of him? Use specific pieces of evidence to support your thinking. If he were your leader, what would you think of him? What do you think he was like as a person? Finally, in the last couple of sentences, think about a main character in a movie or book you really like: does he or she start off a good person? Describe what he or she is like at the beginning and then BRIEFLY explain how he or she ends the story.

15 comments:

  1. In the prologue, the priest and the other fellow Thebians adore the king. The priest starts out by calling him the great king, closes human to a god and god breathed in the king to set the people free. When Creon brought back the information, the king did not want to come inside, he wanted to tell the people because he is very loyal to his people. If he were my leader, I would be happy and respect him. He seams like he is very loyal to the people and he really cares about the people more than he cares about himself. He also feels very bad for the people. As a person, I think he was a very kind, generous, and fair king and a nice person in general. A character I like is Violet from American Horror story she remains the same all the way through.

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  2. The priest and people of Thebes believe Oedipus has god like powers but is not a god himself. Oedipus come across as a sort of "People's Leader". An example is when Creon come back. Instead of putting a twist on what Creon says before telling the public, Oedipus has Creon state it to all of the Thebians. If he were my leader though, I would question him. It seems that his strength isn't in leading, it's more in his ability to please people. He comes across as when he was appointed king, it wasn't because he could lead, it was because he had defeated the plague. In the movie, The Lion King, Simba, at the beginning is a prince who can't wait to be king. However, as his life progresses he becomes more and more hesitant in taking the throne

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  3. The Thebans have nothing but good thoughts on Oedpius. They look up to him as their leader, they trust him with their lives and they trust him to help him get through their city's challenges. Oedipus also trusts his people, he never misleads them. Oedipus truly and genuinely wants to do what's best for people, he has their best interest in mind. He seems like a genuinely kind, caring and likable person. If Oedipus were my leader, I would trust him in leading my city. He thinks about not only himself and that is the most important trait to me in being a leader.

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  4. The priest and the other Thebans have a very high opinion of Oedipus. They respect and revere him, considering him to be almost like a god, although they know he is human. They come to the steps of his palace because they trust him to solve their problems and get rid of the plague in Thebes like he did years before. If Oedipus were my leader, I think he would be good at solving the problems of his people and realizing what they need. He seems like a very down to earth person who cares about his people enough to get down on their level and see eye to eye with them, a trait he demonstrates when he hears the priest and men directly instead of making them use messengers. He is a very honest leader, and lets the men listen to his conversation with Creon, giving them the full truth instead of twisting it or presenting it in a favorable light later on. As a person, I imagine Oedipus truly cares about his people. He refers to them as children, which could be interpreted as condescending, but I think it shows that Oedipus feels obligated to care for and protect his subjects, just like a parent looks out for their kids. He is aware of his city's troubles ("I was not sleeping, you are not waking me.") and explains that the suffering of his subjects has become his own pain, which shows that his is worried for his people and genuinely cares about them. When I think of a character morphing from bad to good, I always think of the movie "A Christmas Carol". Scrooge starts out as this horrible, grumpy old man with no compassion for anyone else, but by the end of the story he has become a generous and kind hearted person.

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  5. When we meet Oedipus when he appears at the very beginning of the play, in the Prologue, the priest and other Thebans think very highly of him. An example of this is on page five, when the priest says, “You are not one of the immortal gods, we know; Yet we have come to you to make our prayer As to the man surest in mortal ways And wisest in the ways of God.” This shows that Oedipus is very respected by the priest and other Thebans because they think he is as close to being a god as humanly possible. If Oedipus was my leader, I would think very highly of him as well. I would respect him because he cares about his people’s opinions, as he shows on page four by saying, “I would not have you speak through messengers,” meaning he cares so much about what his people have to say that he wants to hear them directly. I would also respect him because on page seven when Creon asks Oedipus, “Is it your pleasure to hear me with all these Gathered around us? I am prepared to speak, But should we not go in?” and Oedipus answers, “Let them all hear it. It is for them I suffer, more than for myself.” This shows that Oedipus is transparent and cares about his people because he thinks they have the right to know whatever it is he is being told. I think that as a person, Oedipus was probably very considerate. In the book I am thinking of, the main character starts off as a bad person, but learns an important lesson and becomes a good person at the end.

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  6. At the beginning of the book, the priest and Thebans really looked up to Oedipus, and they trusted him because he had previously saved the city. "You saved us from the Sphinx, that flinty singer, and the tribute." "Therefore, O mighty King, we turn to you: Find us our safety, find us a remedy...Think how all men call you Liberator for your triumph long ago;" If Oedipus were my leader, I would believe he could stop the plague again, but I wouldn't trust him too much; just because someone does something once, doesn't mean he'll do it again. I think deep down he is really a good person, but on the outside, might have a hard time showing it.
    In the movie Frozen, a prince, Hans, seems like a nice person. He is to get married to Anna, the main character. At the end of the book, it turns out he never loved Anna and wanted to marry her just do be of high royalty.

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  7. When we first meet Oedipus we see a grand figure above everyone else in his land. All Thebans and their Priest think most highly of there king, they even call him the closest thing a man can be to a god. He seems like a next an extremely caring king, but that has nothing to do with knowing how to run a land. So I feel that he could be a great political leader and public speaker but that does not mean he always knows what to do in certain situations. He also refers to all his people as children which seems a little odd considering how much he says he cares about them, but he usually seems to do the right thing. One movie character I really enjoy is Cpt. Jack Sparrow from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. One reason I really love him is because hes never really that good or that evil. He just has moments in between where his decisions just come form his own mind. This meaning he does whatever he wants and almost always get away with it. I don't think this book will have a connection with those movies, but I hope the movie and the book have some connections.

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  8. The people of Theban thing of there king very well. Even though he refers to him as children, he really cares about him, and he feels when they have issues. If he was my leader, I would like him and be happy. He seems like he is a very sympathetic person and a good person to be around. It seems like he will not let all of the power get to his head. He wants to solve issues that are effecting the city, and not just him.The character I chose is Ender from Enders game. He started out in the movie as a very nice, very friendly. During the movie he went to battle school and he developed skills for war. He became a skilled fighter and ended up killing an entire race of a species. In the end he was still a nice person, and brought back the whole race. So he was still a good guy at heart. I think Oedipus will be the same.

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  9. When Oedipus appears in the beginning of the play, the priest and the other citizens worship him. They believe that he will be able to solve their problems, as he did before when he solved the sphinx's riddle and got rid of the last plague. The priest says, "therefore, O mighty king, we turn to you: find us our safety, find us a remedy." They trust him to solves their problems completely. I would trust Oedipus if he was my king. He seems to be willing to do all he can for his citizens, and realizes they are suffering even though he lives in luxury as king. He also seems to share everything with them, a good quality in a leader. A character I like is Kate from Lost. She arrives on the show as a criminal, on the run for murder and ends up being a good person, one of the strongest female characters on the show.

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  10. When we first met Oedipus we had mixed emotions towards him. But as we continued to read we noticed that Oedipus is actually a hero to his “children”. The priest called him “the great king”, not equivalent to a god but very close. The also think of him as the great king because he saved them from the plague. Oedipus is known for talking to his people face to face as oppose to through other people like most people in power do. As a person I assume that Oedipus was probably a leader who was serious but fun. A character that I enjoy a lot is Katniss Evergreen from the Hunger games (not Catching Fire). I really love how Katniss volunteered as tribute for her sister, it was quite the courageous move on her part. She shows that overcoming the worst adversity is possible and she ends with the victory.

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  11. The priest and other thebans think highly of Oedipus. We first meet him when he speaks to his people, on the steps of his palace. This alone gives reason for them to like him, because of his direct approach to them. Next, he speaks of feeling their pain , when they discuss the plague. His repeated use of "children," leaves the reader with the impression that he cares deeply about his people like a father would to his offspring. If he were my leader I would like him. I value people for effort, and his attempts at helping the city by sending Creon to Apollo's temple leave a good impression. I also liked how he empathized with his people. I really like the Star Wars movies. One could compare Oedipus to Darth Vader. They both start out as well intentioned, but morally slip away as time passes.

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  12. The priest and the other thebans really like Oedipus. They believe and him and think they will lead there community. The King is well trusted at liked by his "children". They recognize that he isn't a god but they think of him as close to a god as possible. If he was by king I would like him as well, I think he respects everyone else and their opinions and doesn't think he is better than anyone else. A movie I like is the Hangover, Allan starts off as a good person and he is funny. By the end of movie he causes a lot of trouble he maybe could relate to Oedipus, but we don't know how Oedipus will turn out

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  13. In the Prologue, it's clear that the thebans and the priest like him. Although the King referred to them as "children" it seem to not faze them. They continued to call him king and they even said he's the closest human to god, as they know that he's not an immortal god. I think I'd be fine if he were my leader as he seems to respect and value other's opinions. If I were to talk about a book I like, it'd be The Giver. The main character (Jonas) starts off as a good person, but he wasn't aware of many things that were happening around him. As be continued to become more aware, his decisions become more questionable and he became more paranoid but he still didn't lose his good side. I feel like Oedipus might become like this.

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  14. The priest and town think that Oedipus is self centered at first and doesn't care about the city-state because he hasn't helped them yet. They said "you brought us fortune, be the same again" which implies that they think that he has changed from his good ways. I probably would have thought that too at the time when the colony was in such distress. He proved to them after that he was better by implying that he is in the same boat as them. I think that at first I would think that he isn't a good person but soon after he talked to the nation I would think highly of him and have more hope. In Beauty and the Beast the Beast changed drastically. That change was basically the whole point of the movie. He started off evil and cruel but as he fell in love with Belle he was good and kind and turned back into a prince.

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  15. When meeting Oedipus the priest and the other Thebans looked up to him but knew that he was not a god or any type of godly figure. In the beginning of the book (on page five) the priest says to Oedipus “You are not one of the immortal gods, we know…” They still look up to him as their leader because of what he did when the other plaque was there killing their people again. Also, the priest mentions his battle and winning against the Sphinx. If he was my leader I would think really highly of him because he came in a saved my people once and was willing to put himself out of his way to come and talk to us. For Oedipus, in the beginning of the book he starts talking very highly of himself by talking about the Thebans and his “Children.” At the end of the scene you really get to see the real side to him and how he really wants to help the people of Thebes. In the book Gone, the people of the town are more chaotic. The one boy who stands up to be the leader really seems like a bad guy wanting to run everything, but by the end you really see how he is just trying to help.

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